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Poppy said in December 18th, 2007 at 12:38 pm

Do you have that paper? I wanna read it.

I totally believe in other life than us. Am I banished from your blog?

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Pat said in December 18th, 2007 at 2:08 pm

I don’t have much of anything left from my school days. I have some college work and some Kindergarten drawings and stuff, which come to think of it, were the only years I enjoyed myself at school. Hmmm…

You can believe in other life, Poppy, I won’t ban you. Just bear in mind that no one will find proof of life out there, and that means that puts you on par with people that believe smurfs and carebears are real too.

I guess someday someone will bio-engineer a carebear but the stars will still be very silent.

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Poppy said in December 18th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

Of course the stars are silent, they’re too hot for life.

I believe in smurfs and carebears.

I also believe we’ll go silent soon enough as well, and then the universe will return to being happily quiet.

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Poppy said in December 18th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

(Assuming you’re right about us being the only life.)

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Pat said in December 18th, 2007 at 2:34 pm

Until there is evidence to the contrary, we are the only life. I still think its important for NASA to explore and search for other signs of life out there, but it is more likely they will find nothing.

And you are right about the CareBears. There is a place where they exist:

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Poppy said in December 18th, 2007 at 2:41 pm

I PITY THE FOOL!!!!

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jeff said in December 19th, 2007 at 12:41 pm

what statistics book did you read that talked about the potential for alien life?

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Pat said in December 19th, 2007 at 1:33 pm

It was a probability study on the odds of a single dna pair naturally evolving from base chemicals given the right planet, the right enviornment, the right energy input, etc.

That it happened once, here, is so beyond the probability of its occurence that it would be mathematically impossible for it to have happened twice. Compound that with the odds that a dna strand would evolve into a sentient species that could develop technology that violates the laws of physics and relativity to power a vehicle to get to this one planet in the galaxy, and the odds are almost incalculable.

And reports of several distinct alien species therefore becomes absurd.

Life will be on other planets when we put it there.

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Tim said in December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am
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Pat said in December 20th, 2007 at 11:46 am

Yeah, that is pretty cool. Seems like lotsa people way smarter than me have been working on this for a while.

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Poppy said in December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 am

Here’s where my mind goes…

Let’s say this is the case. What about the idea that we were put here by more sentient beings than ourselves (not a god/gods) and we “naturally” developed out sentience/intelligence during out evolution?

Ok, no evidence to support it, but it’s just really weird that we’re the only ones anywhere and we can’t flipping figure out how to explore the universe.

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Poppy said in December 20th, 2007 at 11:50 am

*out=our - both times!

Clearly, some of us are more evolved than others. (dur.)

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Pat said in December 20th, 2007 at 12:21 pm

I’m not saying anything about creationism or even intelligent design. The leading theories of the day still lean toward evolution. It is just mathematically improbable that it would happen twice.

As far as exploring the universe? I’d settle for exploring our own solar system first. And any meaningful work into interstellar exploration must really incorporate some type of faster than light travel, which Einstein says is impossible. So you have that whole “cannot break the laws of physics” thing to get around.

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Poppy said in December 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

In case I wasn’t clear, which I never am: I’m saying sentient beings, more sentient than we, drove us from their planet to Earth, dropped us off, and waited to see what would happen with us.

No gods, no creationism, we’re just another species to them but they saw potential for us to evolve our sentientiousness. :)

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Poppy said in December 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pm

NO, I AM NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST, I DIDN’T DRINK ANY KOOL-AID, AND I DON’T KNOW TOM CRUISE. :)

I’m just sayin’. I really hope someone else is more advanced than we are.

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Pat said in December 20th, 2007 at 1:06 pm

That sounds like the whole “Chariot of the Gods” argument from back in the late 70’s. Again, someone would have had to find a way to break the FTL barrier to deposit us here.

Does it scare you to think that we may be the biggest brains in the galaxy?

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Poppy said in December 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

Given our current state of brain, it’s very disappointing. I just hope we develop into much smarter beings. As in, more than 10% usage of our brains.

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