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Belch.Com » FanMail From Steve Looney said in February 21st, 2006 at 4:17 pm

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pat said in February 21st, 2006 at 5:47 pm

Sadly….
Stupid Welder… Dead Welder….
http://tinyurl.com/qt432

A construction worker was killed Wednesday when a welding torch apparently ignited his clothes while he was working inside a steel drainage pipe at a construction site at Highway 29 in Napa.

The man, whose name was not released, was trapped inside the pipe and burned to death, according to the Napa Fire Department.

The worker had entered the pipe to perform either welding or cutting with an acetylene torch. The pipe was 24 inches in diameter, and the man was about 40 feet inside the pipe when the fire broke out.

The man cried out in pain, and his partner, who also was not identified, attempted to go to his rescue with a fire extinguisher. However, it turned out the second man could not be of help, according to fire Capt. Scott Sedgley.

“You can crawl in the pipe, but you can’t turn around,” Sedgley said. Realizing the situation was desperate, the trapped man’s partner backed out of the pipe and called 911.

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pat said in February 22nd, 2006 at 9:03 am

Stupid Welder… Dead Welder…
This one didnt think he needed good scaffolding.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4028789.stm

Defence company BAE Systems has been fined £250,000 after a welder died while working on a North Sea platform.
Billy Farrell, 35, of Belton, Norfolk, fell to his death as he carried out maintenance work on a crane.

Norwich Crown Court heard on Friday that despite it being 90ft above the North Sea, there were no safety rails or toe boards.

BAE Systems Operations Ltd admitted failing to ensure the safety of a person other than an employee.

The Hon Mr Justice Cresswell said that the scaffolding used for the work was “unsafe and unsuitable”.

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pat said in February 22nd, 2006 at 9:25 am

Stupid Welder…. Dead Welder…
He couldn’t see the fireball that was coming toward him…

http://www.fresnobee.com/updates/metro/story/11751514p-12473182c.html

John Robert Pura, 46, who was injured in an explosion and fire Monday afternoon at his business in Clovis, died this morning at University Medical Center, the Fresno County Coroner’s Office reported.

Pura, a resident of Clovis and owner of Pura Fabz, a custom welding and fabrication business at 53 W. Herndon Ave., was doing a welding job near a fuel tank on a truck when the explosion occurred.

Pura, who reportedly was covered in a ball of fire, was taken to UMC with third-degree burns over 100% of his body, as well as other injuries. He was pronounced dead about 5:15 a.m. today.

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pat said in February 23rd, 2006 at 8:31 pm

I’m so SHOCKED to hear about this stupid welder….
From an accident report here: http://tinyurl.com/opkxr

Farmer Dies When Electrocuted While Welding Feed Bunker Wagon

On August 6, 2003, a 44-year-old male farmer was welding a feed bunker wagon when he was electrocuted. The portable 240-volt plug-in cord-connected Hobart welder was in disrepair. The power cord and the cables had damaged insulation exposing the conductors. The welder lead cables were at least 10 years old and were 12 feet long. The victim parked the feed bunker wagon near a wooden building that was filled with tools and junk metal. The victim had attached the ground cable to the feed bunker wagon. The welder was plugged into an outlet that had exposed conductors and, according to the police report, also had other items plugged into it. To allow the welding leads to reach the location of the feed bunker wagon, the victim connected two sets of welding cables and placed the un-insulated cable splices on bare dirt. The victim was lying on damp, bare ground and was sweating heavily, as indicated by his perspiration-soaked short sleeve shirt. An individual who had been previously working with the victim found the victim under the feed bunker wagon with the welder cables lying across his lap. The victim was wearing his welding helmet. He was not wearing gloves. The victim was sitting up under the trailer with his head resting on a metal support railing under the feed bunker wagon. According to the police report, the person who found the victim knelt down and put his hands on the soil and received a “large” shock. This individual turned off the welder and called for assistance. The victim was declared dead at the scene.

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pat said in March 1st, 2006 at 4:03 pm

Stupid Welder… Dead Welder. This time in Kuala Lampur. From TMCNet here: http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/28/1418556.htm

An explosion in a chemical plant belonging to an affiliate company of Japan’s Kao Corp. has killed two Malaysians and injured two others, local Malaysian newspapers reported Wednesday.

The Star quoted unnamed sources as saying the explosion may have occurred because the methanol tank was not emptied properly before maintenance work was carried out.

The official news agency Bernama reported late Tuesday that the two killed were welding a gas pipe and probably were unaware of a leak in the pipe as sparks from the welding set caused the explosion, felt a kilometer away.

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pat said in March 2nd, 2006 at 5:15 pm

Stupid Welder manages to survive his accident. Not all of them die.
Thoughts and prayers are with the family for a speedy recovery.

From the Sun Herald here:
http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive4/030206/tp1de1.htm

Billy Cooper has undergone four surgeries, faces many more

ARCADIA — A local father of two girls is in a coma and has undergone four surgeries since being severely injured in an explosion last week.

William “Billy” R. Cooper Jr., 35, suffered numerous injuries Feb. 23, particularly to his left leg, when an oil tank he was welding exploded.

According to his family, Cooper was working at Family Dynamics, formerly known as Consolidated Minerals Inc., on Pine Level Road near the Pine Level Methodist Church. Operations Manager Jeff Adams said Wednesday that Cooper was welding the tank, which was inside a shop, to put a leg stand on so it wouldn’t turn over. The tank held used oil intended for disposal from tractors and power units.

Adams said Cooper apparently pierced the tank and a spark ignited the fumes inside it.

According to the fire department’s report, a caller said Cooper had received burns on his arms, a tourniquet had been placed on his leg, bone was sticking out and the leg was twisted completely around.

Metcalf-Bonagua said his left leg was broken in seven different places and has 7 inches of bone missing. Cooper’s pelvis and left knee were crushed, and his left hip and socket broken. He has a hematoma on his kidney and light burns on his hands, feet and face. He also has lost extensive amounts of blood.

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pat said in March 28th, 2006 at 12:26 pm

Here is an example of a stupid person that wants to BE a welder. And I think he gets his stupidity from his mother, who refuses to forbid him from doing highly stupid things.

From the Kingsport Times:
http://www.timesnews.net/communityArticle.dna?_StoryID=3615614

Jeran Simpson suffered traumatic brain injuries after flipping his dirt bike and was hooked to total life support for more than a week.

MOUNT CARMEL - Though he can’t remember it, Jeran Simpson was flipped from his dirt bike at I-81 Speedway on Dec. 27. A jump went wrong, threw him over the handle bars, and brought the motorcycle down on his head.

The 17-year-old suffered traumatic brain injuries and was hooked to total life support for more than a week.

Yet in only three months, the Mount Carmel teen has relearned to walk and talk, and anxiously marks off the days to his June re-evaluation. That’s when he hopes doctors sign off on a return to normal activities.

Of course, for this rough-and-tumble kid, “normal activities” are herding cattle, riding horses and racing his junior dragster at more than 80 mph.

“I know it sounds crazy letting him go back to that, but if we take all those things away from him, we’ve taken who he is away,” said Jeran’s mother, Teresa Simpson.

“Drag racing, I feel safe with it, even as a mom. He’s probably safer in his car than he is my Volkswagen because of the restraints, the helmet, fire suit, roll cage.”

There will, however, be no more racing dirt bikes.

“Before, I didn’t care if I wrecked. I’d jump anything and go as fast as I could,” Jeran said. “I didn’t think I’d get hurt on them. But since my wreck I’m going to respect my bike.”

“And used to, I wanted to be out of school,” the Volunteer High School sophomore adds. “Now I want to be back in school, see my friends and start welding again. Sitting around the house all day gets boring.”

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pat said in April 7th, 2006 at 3:34 pm

This man may not have done anything stupid to cause his own welding death, but he works a job that blinds him to safety hazards around him. Someone comes up and plays with the controllers on his cherry picker, and it kills him.

From Onlineathens here:
http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/040706/cops_20060407042.shtml

Bogart man killed in construction accident

A 47-year-old Bogart man, John Michael Cox, died Thursday morning in a construction accident at a new gas station in Walton County at the intersection of Georgia Highway 11 and Bold Springs Road, according to a report by the Walton County Sheriff’s Office.

Cox, a metal fabricator, was bent over the basket of a cherry picker truck welding one of the station’s metal rafters around 9 a.m., said Lt. Chris Cannon of sheriff’s office, when something tripped one of the bucket’s hydraulic controls and Cox was pinned between the bucket and the rafter. He died on the scene.

The sheriff’s office does not believe foul play was involved with Cox’s death, but the Occupational Health and Safety Administration is investigating to see if there were any safety violations on the work site. Cannon would not release the name of the construction firm building the gas station until the OSHA investigation is complete, he said.

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CS said in April 11th, 2006 at 3:11 pm

Pat said,
“Yes, I have had an extensive education. However, a real education means that you are indeed capable of making a judgement about something. Only pussies refuse to commit to one side or another of an issue. To demand that I “see all sides” of an issue is a multicultural red herring.”

Pat, I would like to know about this “multicultural red herring” In all the years in Soc, I haven’t come across that term used in a non-multicultural sense ;)

FWIW, you bring up some good points, but I’d like to make the ammendment that welders aren’t inherently stupid. Rather, for some reason welding seems to attract stupid people like a moth to a light. There are a few smart ones out there and usually they are the ones that will make it past 50. The rest, as you have pointed out, find a way to weed themselves out (which is fine, as it helps keep down the old age pension payments for the rest of us).

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pat said in April 11th, 2006 at 7:48 pm

The modern view of society is that it is a sin to have an opinion on anything. That’s right, a sin, and to confess and repent from that sin you have to espouse both sides of an issue. This is a preposterous idea. Only modern day sociologists use the red herring or distraction from the issue at hand, to say that unless both sides are presented about an issue, the conclusion is automatically wrong.

Welders are stupid sir. You want to sugar coat it to say that only stupid people are attracted to the welding career, but doesnt this just mean that welders are stupid?

Also, you seem to take heart in the fact that welders die young due to stupidity. This is also wrong. I have never rejoiced in the death of any welder, and to suggest that it is okay because there is more pension money for the rest of the crew is stupid too.

Welders should be replaced by robots whenever possible. Welders should be trained in robotics and engineering so they can make their jobs safer.

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CS said in April 12th, 2006 at 1:11 am

Only politicians embrace that great a form of fence-sitting. If being strongly opinionated works for you, then so be it. I agree, the general populus is being raised in an unopinionated state. As J.S. Mill pointed out, people without differing opionions are worthless to the overall integrity of that society.

I did not intend to paint death of any person in any profession as a reason for rejoice. But, if you are looking at facts, you can paint it whatever color you want, the fact still remains that stupid people will weed themselves out of society. Hopefully they will take as few innocent people with them as possible. The punk that drives 120mph and t-bones a family on their way to church is stupid, hopefully he dies. Simple. Punk weeded out.

If you want to look at real stupidity, start looking at some of the other occupations out there. For example, the noble police officer, who via numbers found through a report done in conjunction with the police and PhD Plecas, lives an average of of two years after reaching mandatory retirement before succumbing to heart disease. That in its own form is stupidity. These officers are chasing that carrot (often in the form of a gauranteed retirement pension), working the best part of their lives away until they have nothing left but medications, medical bills, and often mental illness in the latter stages of their lives. A trades-person’s occupation seems pretty tame when compared to that.

While replacing welders with robots seems ideal, it is at this point and time not feasible and still economically unwise (on a national scale). The increased unemployment rates alone may very-well outweigh the cost savings of unmanned labour. Also, I am not sure that society can realistically be confined to a protective bubble that prevents people from engaging in potentially harmfull activities.

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pat said in April 21st, 2006 at 10:54 pm

Stupid Welder, Dead welder. And he took his welding shop with him. From a Texas news site: http://tinyurl.com/m27le

EVADALE - An 18-wheel tanker truck exploded Thursday at an Evadale business, killing one man, injuring another and destroying the business, according to the Jasper County Sheriff’s Department.

About 9 a.m., the sheriff’s department received a call that Design Fabrication and Welding on the corner of County Road 864 and FM 105 had blown up as owner Ray Lee Tarkington was installing a tanker level gauge.

Apparently, the 40-foot truck exploded, Sheriff’s Department Investigator Larry Folmar said in a telephone conversation while at the scene. A cutting torch was nearby, Folmar said.

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pat said in April 29th, 2006 at 11:44 am

Stupid Welder leads against Cherry Picker controls and kills himself.

IRONWORKER CRUSHED AT VACAVILLE CONSTRUCTION SITE

State workplace safety authorities are investigating the death of an ironworker who was crushed between a steel beam and a boom lift at the Nut Tree Village construction project in Vacaville Thursday morning.

The Solano County coroner’s office identified the victim as 38-year-old Anthony Laraby of Rio Linda. He was pronounced dead around 10:45 a.m. and the cause of death was traumatic asphyxia, the coroner’s office said.

Laraby was welding a steel beam from inside the basket of a boom about 21 feet off the ground at the time, Fryer said. The boom was lowered when a worker noticed Laraby wasn’t moving, Fryer said.

Laraby was found against the controls of the boom, Fryer said. Cal-OSHA took possession of the lift equipment and will check for mechanical problems, investigate training procedures and interview witnesses, Fryer said.

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pat said in May 3rd, 2006 at 12:56 pm

Stupid Welder, Dead Welder. And he took his buddies with him. This time, it was welding a tank on a massive Oil Tanker. Boom. Bodies floating at sea. From here: http://tinyurl.com/mbfsu

Four killed in blast aboard supertanker

PENANG: An explosion on board a supertanker some 215 nautical miles off the coast of Penang killed four Chinese nationals and injured a Filipino and a Singaporean.

The blast, said to be from an exhaust pump, occurred around 5pm yesterday during some welding works on board the 30,000tonne mt Suva.

The vessel was headed to Saudi Arabia from Singapore.

The men were among 12 Singapore-based contractors who boarded the vessel at 3am on Saturday to carry out repair works on some empty tanks.

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pat said in May 3rd, 2006 at 9:00 pm

Stupid Welder, Running Around on Fire Welder:

Another welder works on a supposedly empty tank which then explodes. This welder runs around on fire and would have turned to ash if not for the quick thinking of his neighbor.

From an Aussie Paper here: http://tinyurl.com/olfug

Worker critically injured in blast

Quick-thinking Steve Cardigan doused the flames on the victim’s body after the Moolap blast.

THE brave actions and quick thinking of a man working in Moolap yesterday possibly saved the life of a man badly burnt in a factory accident. A 65-year-old Ocean Grove man reportedly received burns to about 50 per cent of his body when an empty 44-gallon drum he was welding exploded.

The man had been working on his own in a shed in Essex Street, Moolap, when the explosion occurred just after 3pm.

A man working in a neighbouring shed, Steve Cardigan, rushed next door and grabbed the man whose clothing was on fire and turned a tap on him to douse the flames.

“He was running out and I grabbed him and put him out,” Mr Cardigan said.

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pat said in May 12th, 2006 at 9:28 pm

Stupid welder burns up his legs at a Chicken Factory. Of course he does. From the Herald Sun: http://tinyurl.com/jkpwq

A MAN suffered burns to his legs after a welding accident at a former chicken farm yesterday.

The man, in his 30s, was working in a shed at Tru Blu Campers in Bangholme, an hour southeast of Melbourne, when the fire started.
Five CFA trucks went to the scene and brought the blaze under control within 30 minutes.

Damage was estimated at $300,000.

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pat said in June 1st, 2006 at 7:22 pm

Stupid Welders engaged in illegally manufacturing gas cylinders caught a tank of paint thinner on fire. BOOM. Dead welders.

Fire in Meerut factory kills two
Meerut: Two factory employees were killed on the spot when the establishment caught fire on Wednesday evening here.

“An illegal work of making gas cylinders was running in the shop. Due to sparking during welding, a drum of the thinner caught fire. As a result, two workers, Tony and Pravesh, died on the spot and four got injured”, said Mukesh Mishra, District Magistrate, Meerut.

The injured have been admitted to a clinic. The exact cause of the blast is yet to be ascertained.

According to the Senior Superintendent of Police, Navneet Seekera, “It will be too early to reach at a conclusion. But what we can draw out initially is that the chemicals in this illegally run factory caught fire. Since it is closed from all sides, therefore, the factory workers could not come out and suffered badly in the accident”.

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pat said in June 4th, 2006 at 5:01 pm

Sammy Hagar knows welders are stupid. He is donating cash from ticket sales to benefit a burn unit where a friend died after catching fire in a welding accident.

http://www.dailynews.com/music/ci_3889195

The county of San Bernardino celebrated May 23 as “Sammy Hagar Day,” acknowledging Hagar’s pledge to donate funds from 2,000 tickets to his concert in Devore this Saturday to Arrowhead Regional Medical Center’s Inland Counties Regional Burn Center in Colton. The monies will go toward a local burn camp and purchase specialized medical equipment.

After considering a variety of children’s charities, Hagar selected the facility because a friend of his family, Scotty Bennett, died there after an accident working in his father’s welding shop. On May 23, he was honored by county officials and planned to tour the burn facility.

“I know people don’t want to hear this about Sammy Hagar the big tough rock star, but I cry at the drop of a hat and I don’t want to be walking through the damn place crying at everybody’s bedside, but if that’s what I have to do, I’ll stand up to it,” Hagar said.

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pat said in June 5th, 2006 at 8:57 pm

Welders working on a tank. Big explosion. Dead welders.

Three Pinebelt Men Dead after Oil Field Explosion

Three Marion County men were killed and another was badly injured in an oil field explosion this morning in Smith County.

The accident happened at a 280 acre oil field about six miles southwest of Raleigh. Authorities say 18 year old Toby Scarborough, 23 year old Nicky Wayne Pounds, both of Foxworth, and 53 year old George Jefferson of Columbia were killed and Huey Duncan of Columbia was injuried.

The four worked at Stringers Oil Field Services of Columbia and were preparing a tank to receive oil from a new pump that had been installed on a well. The workers were on a catwalk connecting four storage tanks when the explosion occured. Authorities say one of the workers was using a welding torch on one of the tanks.

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pat said in July 4th, 2006 at 8:23 am

It seems that the most popular accidental death from welding is explosions. Explosions happen when welders fail to clear the area of explosive materials, or worse, weld on a tank that used to hold explosive materials.

From an Alberta News station here- http://tinyurl.com/rt368

ALBERTA/630 CHED - Family members in Alberta and Manitoba are mourning the deaths of two young men killed in an Alberta workplace accident.

Carey Klatt of Sherwood Park and Robert Kennedy of Shoal Lake, Manitoba, were killed when a container full of propane and gasoline exploded while they were welding next to it.

Family members of both men say they were the type of person who would help anyone out.

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pat said in July 31st, 2006 at 9:54 am

Lots of welders plummet to their death. Here is one such case, sadly:

http://tinyurl.com/e5vn4

GHENT, Ky. - Two men were killed Friday after the roof panel they were standing on gave way at a plant in northern Kentucky.

The men were tack-welding roof panels onto a building expansion at the North American Stainless Plant at the time of the accident, according to Steve Sparrow with the Kentucky Occupational Safety and Health Administration office.

Sparrow said the men fell approximately 80 feet.

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pat said in August 6th, 2006 at 9:45 pm

Another Welding Explosion- From the Anchorage Daily News at
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8039274p-7932244c.html

Man welding killed in fuel tank explosion

A 48-year-old Wasilla man was killed in an explosion Thursday at a Wasilla boat building shop, according to the Wasilla Police Department.

The accident occurred just after 4 p.m. at a shop on Railroad Avenue in downtown Wasilla. Krill said the man and another employee were doing welding work on a fuel tank on a 24-foot fishing boat when the explosion occurred.

Crain said the two men appeared to have taken the appropriate safety precautions, including making sure the tank was empty before working on it. But, he said, some remaining fumes may have triggered the explosion.

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james said in August 10th, 2006 at 8:03 am

this is a very informative page.. keep up the good work. i have taken a few welding courses, but “woke up” before i could actually enter the trade. what is the real deal about only having to work 8 months out of the year, and still bringing home 70- 100,000+++ dollars a year??????? is all that true??? peace!!!

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pat said in August 10th, 2006 at 8:51 am

Most welders do not earn that type of salary, James. Maybe some real specialized welders do, like underwater welders.

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pat said in August 10th, 2006 at 10:26 am

Oh my God. Some welders are stupider than others. I write often about welders blowing themselves up. Usually welders explode because they weld on fuel tanks or other containers with explosive gases inside. Rarely does it involve dynamite or other explosives.

This is a case in Maine where a man was welding with blasting caps sitting on top of his workbench. The blasting caps were sitting there forever because they never bothered to throw them away.

From MaineToday here:
http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/3009087.shtml

Jackman man dies in farm blast

JACKMAN — A Jackman man died Monday, after blasting caps exploded while he was welding parts onto his tractor.

Glenn “David” Bouffard, 55, was fatally injured in the blast, an accident that was witnessed by his wife, Genie, and other family members who were nearby.

Surrounded at noon Tuesday by a big gathering at her Main Street home, Genie Bouffard said her husband had been suffering from diabetes, heart problems and kidney failure.

“He was afraid of dying in a bed, and he’s not afraid of dying anymore,” she said.

Investigators said Bouffard was welding or grinding metal on parts of his farm tractor when 200 blasting caps on his work bench exploded. The caps were more than 40 years old and had been on the property for decades.

The explosion blew out the windows in his workshop, located next to the Bouffard’s home on Main Street, according to Joseph Thomas, assistant state fire marshal.

His wife of 32 years said Bouffard was not aware that the blasting caps were that close to where he was working.

“It cut him wide open, and he just died,” she said. “He was alive for about 10 minutes, but his throat was just ripped out. It can’t be helped. It’s done. You can’t change it.

The family had kept the blasting caps around for no other reason than David Bouffard’s father had left them there, Genie Bouffard said.

“We’re just an old-fashioned farm family who keeps everything,” she said.

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james said in August 16th, 2006 at 10:05 am

you mention welding for 5 years. does the smoke and fumes really get into your lungs. the only welding i have done was in a booth at school, with a vent sucking the smoke, or something like that. On the job, is there any kind of protection for your lungs? did you notice any respiratory changes in yourself?

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pat said in August 16th, 2006 at 11:03 am

James,
Welcome to the Blog!

Yes, the smoke and fumes really get into your lungs. But from your minimal exposure, you shouldnt have any problems. My health problems came from “metal fume fever” which is the inhalation of some heavy metals in particle form. Once I stopped welding, I stopped having these symptoms. I have no idea what, if any, long term effects it may have had on me. I feel great today and am in great health.

If anyone is worried about welding fumes, a respirator should be available for use.

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pat said in August 30th, 2006 at 3:31 pm

Welder dies in yet another explosion. This time it was a Tanker Truck.

From the AP here:
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/state/15392904.htm

COUPLAND, Texas - A welder died Tuesday afternoon when a tanker truck exploded as he worked on it at a small oil refinery business in Williamson County, authorities said.

Detective John Foster of the Williamson County Sheriff’s Department said Casey Allen Teague, 52, of Coupland, was doing some spot welding on top of the empty tanker when one of his welds went through the tanker hull and ignited fumes inside.

Authorities evacuated a half-mile area around the heavily traveled intersection of Farm to Market roads 1660 and 973 because they did not know what fumes were leaking from the tanker.

Teague was working on the truck at Fuel Blenders Inc., the Austin American-Statesman reported.

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john said in September 9th, 2006 at 9:27 am

greetings! how much did you earn per year, when you were welding? thanx. it seems nobody else will tell me. i am interested, because i am examining different careers. peace brother!

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pat said in September 9th, 2006 at 11:16 am

Hi john! When I was welding back in the late 80’s and early 90’s, I was working for a union contract at NN Shipyard. I was making about 18.50 per hour. If I was non-union, I may have been able to pull down about 25-30 bucks per hour.

Pay really depends on the type of work, the type of welding and the degree of risk involved. If you have to work for a union, you can expect less pay, but more of a guarantee of ongoing work.

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Metalfusion Tech. said in September 25th, 2006 at 6:54 pm

Ive worked for the last 10 years as a welder, and your right about one thing. The majority of MarineWorkers, Iron Workers, Pile drivers and general Shop wire monkeys are stupid. Those are the lowest fields in the welding trade, and your bitter you because you were just a stupid weelder, working in a shipyard. I think the entrace requirement for a shipyard welder is a double digit IQ. I spent a year doing Marine repair and i hated it sometimes and loved it other times, All i got out of it was a good paycheque and scarred arms. Smart welders work in safe clean shops, Tig welding stainless and assorted alloys. Stupid shipyard welder

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pat said in September 26th, 2006 at 8:13 pm

Another unfortunate accident. This time a man is crushed by his work. He was 59 years old. From KTVA here:
http://www.ktva.com/alaska/ci_4399582

Officials in Ketchikan have identified the man who died last week after being trapped under heavy equipment at a private rock pit east of Ketchikan Ready Mix. Ketchikan Public Safety Director Rich Leipfert says the victim was 59-year-old Leonard Vick of Ketchikan.

Leipfert says Vick died after part of a large backhoe became unstable and fell on him. Vick was apparently welding the backhoe at the time of the Thursday accident.

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BelchSpeak » Welders’ Pay Won’t Increase said in October 17th, 2006 at 1:45 pm

[...] You can read my horror stories about welders in the comments section of this post. [...]

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pat said in January 1st, 2007 at 1:34 am

A welder had his legs crushed and he died from his injuries. From the NY Daily News here:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/484543p-407929c.html

Laborer Luis Murillo died a horrible death on a cold night in Queens, his waist and legs crushed under a massive steel boiler door. The city medical examiner called it an accident.

The 3,000-pound door fell late on Friday, Dec. 15, as a handful of workers - including Murillo and his brother - were trying to remove it from a boiler at a utility plant in Astoria, Queens.

It slammed down on top of Murillo, a 38-year-old father, crushing his lower torso and legs and pinning him to the floor, according to records and several sources. The workers, from All-Star Welding and Demolition of Danbury, Conn., told first responders they used a forklift to pull the door off Murillo.

But that may have been a fatal mistake. The door was likely serving as a kind of a tourniquet that was preventing Murillo from bleeding to death, said the first responder, who spoke with The News on condition of anonymity. “It was a horrible sight,” the first responder said, describing how Murillo’s brother had held his sibling’s head and wept as his brother died.

Murillo was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital of Queens in Astoria. His death was reported to the city medical examiner at 9:19 p.m. and was ruled an accident.

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pat said in January 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 am

This is an email thread from a disgruntled reader. As email, it is best to be read from the bottom up.

From: pat@belch.com

See stupid? You mailed me. You know about as much regarding legal issues as you do welding.

From: Cody Demara [mailto:deadman11699@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:17 PM
To: Patrick Belcher
Subject: Re: Welders

By the way with out my name changed I do not want to be on your website. And that is my legal right because I am a minor.
On 1/1/07, Cody Demara < deadman11699@gmail.com> wrote:
Whatever I don’t have the time for this shit. But just to let you know Im in school. Lets see how much of what I do now you could do at 16. BITCH

On 1/1/07, Patrick Belcher < pat@belch.com> wrote:
What I do for a living is widely available knowledge on Belch.com. I know its tough for you little brains to read a website, but give it a try. And yeah, welding should be replaced by robots, just like they did in the automotive industry. And guess what? You welders are probably too stupid to be retrained to run those bots too. Best to go back to school Cody.

Good luck and thanks for visiting Belch.com!

From: Cody Demara [mailto:deadman11699@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:57 AM
To: Patrick Belcher
Subject: Re: Welders

Bull shit is that the best reply that you can come up with. I want to know because we are honest hard workers and now our jobs should be replaced with robots?

On 12/31/06, Patrick Belcher wrote:
Good luck stupid. Don’t light any arcs next to fuel tanks.
What does it matter to you what I do now?

From: Cody Demara [mailto:deadman11699@gmail.com ]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:17 PM
To:
PAT@belch.com
Subject: Welders

Pat,

I am welding a couple of hours a day sometimes. And now I’m in school learning how to improve what I do. And I have created servers for companies and designed html, java, and cgi databases. What are doing besides some blog, by the way did you even write the script for it? I just think that you pissed because you were never able to handles a mans’ job. Yea I have some scars and burns from it but its all worth it.

This is from your article,

Just because welders are stupid, it doesn’t mean that I hate all welders. True, I hated the
occupation, but the fine Americans that comprise the steelworkers union are mostly good people that work hard. But they are still stupid. However, America needs its welders to put our ships together, to build our skyscrapers and our bridges. But I must say that if there is ever any occupation most deserving of replacing its workers with robots, it has to be welding.

Just curiosity what do you do for a living now. That is got to be close to the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. And honestly I hope that you do lose your job or what ever you do for money. So you want to replace American jobs with some robot product that’s made in china? DUMBASS!!

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pat said in January 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

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GLENN GUNSTEN said in January 7th, 2007 at 11:48 am

comment removed at request of poster.

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pat said in January 7th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

Stupid welders cant find the caps lock either. And your first sentence, seeing if you get it straight? Wrong. I am not sitting at home collecting disability. That’s not even how disability works, stupid. And as far as finishing at the top of the welding game? Its like coming in first at the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.

Good luck Glenn. And the caps lock is just below the tab key. Thanks for visiting Belch.Com!

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pat said in January 7th, 2007 at 11:34 pm

Here is another horror story of a welder. He was crushed to death by a steel plate weighing thousands of pounds. It fell off of a ship he was working on.

From the New York Times Here: http://tinyurl.com/whzyg

A worker repairing a barge at a shipyard in the Brooklyn Navy Yard was crushed to death Saturday.

Christopher G. Thomas hardly ever worked on Saturdays. It was his day to shop, do laundry and, most important, languidly pass the hours with his wife.

Christopher G. Thomas, 51, was a welder who lived in the Bronx. But yesterday, needing money, Mr. Thomas reported to work as an ironworker at the GMD Shipyard in the Brooklyn Navy Yard near Fort Greene.

About 10:15 a.m., witnesses said, a massive metal plate, weighing thousands of pounds, that was being used to repair a barge in dry dock somehow came loose and crashed to the ground. Mr. Thomas had been working beneath the barge, and was crushed during the plate’s fall, his hard hat no match for its force.

Mr. Thomas, 51, was unconscious and in cardiac arrest at the shipyard and was taken to Brooklyn Hospital Center, where he was pronounced dead, said his sister-in-law, Kathy McLean, 45.

Mr. Thomas had been a welder nearly all of his adult life. He prided himself on paying scrupulous attention to details and safety, his family said.

For those of you keeping track like me, that makes two welders crushed to death in one week in New York City. My condolences to the families.

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BelchSpeak » You Got Supertanker on My Nuke Sub said in January 9th, 2007 at 11:53 am

[...] I used to work on nuke subs back in the day. I didn’t have a hand in working on the Newport News, but I know guys who did. [...]

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pat said in January 12th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

Welder Electrocuted and Falls Forty Feet

More welder intelligence here: http://tinyurl.com/yd7ys2

WESLACO — A worker who was shocked by an electrical wire and fell 40 feet at a local construction site earlier this week was upgraded from critical to satisfactory condition at a San Antonio hospital on Thursday.

Ignacio Hernandez Lopez, 22, was moved to a monitoring unit, according to information from Brooks Army Medical Center, to where he was airlifted on Tuesday. He is recovering from head injuries, as well as burns on his stomach and feet.

At the time of his accident Tuesday, Lopez was handling a 12-foot-long piece of angle iron on top of a scaffold at West 4th Street and Nebraska Avenue when the metal came in contact with a primary feeder electrical line nearby, said George Garrett, Weslaco’s emergency management coordinator. Electricity traveled through his body and he fell from the scaffold.

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nate said in January 24th, 2007 at 9:25 pm

All you are and all you will ever be is a stupid ship welder.It sounds like you were a stupid production welder to me with no welding or fabrication skills.I would love to see you design and fabricate something like a robot that can do what i do.The only reason robots are made are for productivity, consistancy and to replace crappy welders like you.You are just mad because you couldn’t take a man’s trade.So just stay in your girly office or go stand with your mom on the corner.And by the way,do you also think firefighters are stupid for running straight into burning buildings?By the contents of this blog you seem like you aren’t very bright yourself.

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pat said in January 24th, 2007 at 11:49 pm

Nate,
I had to edit the swearing from the comment. As far as your prognostication that “All you will ever be is a stupid ship welder,” you are wrong and are exhibiting poor comprehension skills. If you read carefully, you will see that I have left the shipyard. Years ago. I have become much more than a welder and I am very proud of my contributions to my employer, who pays me very well for what I do.

Attempting to compare welders to firefighters is a complete non-sequitor to your argument, as are your attempts to claim that I have feminine traits because I was smart enough to get a more suitable job.

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nate said in January 25th, 2007 at 7:26 pm

So what is your job then?this whole time you have yet to tell everyone what you do for a living now.i live in northern va so why don’t we meet and talk about your view’s on welding.you can come to my shop and see what i do and then call people like me stupid.i don’t think you would do that tough because you are afraid of your opinion being wrong.all you have to go on are people you have worked with and things you read.if you feel that strong about your opinion tell everyone what you do and prove me too be a stupid welder and come to my shop.and don’t make up some bull**** job too make your self sound smarter than you really are.i’m sure you will find some lame excuse like you have moved.i will come pick your lazy butt up and drive you myself.now go ahead and start thinking of all the excuses and comments you can type back because everyone knows thats all your going to do.you sound like you have sand in your vagina to me.and yes i know your going to edit this and try to make yourself look good.GOOD JOB PATSY SORRY I COULDN’T FIND THE CAPS LOCK.WHERE WAS THAT AGAIN?

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pat said in January 25th, 2007 at 8:27 pm

Can’t find the space bar either, I see. Look Nate, if you read my blog it will become apparent what I do for a living. And I obviously don’t need to see what you do since I know you are a welder. And Im flattered that you really want to meet me, but honestly, I’m just not that into you. And its really stupid to threaten anyone over the Internet.

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nate said in January 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

good one,how long did the space bar joke take you to think of?so what the hell do you do all day???you sound pretty stupid yourself because i didn’t threaten you at all in all of that.i was trying to be some what nice to you.what is your job title now?you are starting to prove my point that you are just as stupid as everyone else you talk about.don’t go around bashing people and what they do unless you can prove your point in person.if you want a real threat i can do that but you wouldn’t have the balls to give me a chance to follow through.this will be my last post unless you want to meet me and prove that i am just a stupid welder.i think your just afraid of your opnion being wrong and failing at something else in your sad life.so good luck at quiting whatever you do now and if you ever need a good job you can come and suck on my balls in my welding shop while i do a man’s job.andthislastsentenceisjustforyoupatsyyoustupidcomputernerd.

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pat said in January 26th, 2007 at 2:58 pm

I keep telling you that I am not that into you. For the last few posts, you keep making homo-erotic references to us meeting. Its not going to happen. Im very happily married. And even if I was gay, I would have more taste than to date a dirty, stupid welder who lives in Sterling and makes such a pitiful salary.

Face it, you wouldn’t be so mad if everything I had written wasn’t absolutely true, especially about you. Thanks for your feedback on the page. You have done well to prove my point.

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pat said in January 31st, 2007 at 10:30 pm

Stupid Welder is Squished by a Dump Truck

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news-story.php?story=243452

MILLFIELD, Ohio — An Athens County man was pinned and killed under a dump-truck bed yesterday, deputies with the sheriff’s office there said.

Kenneth T. Clowes, 49, was welding underneath the bed of a dump truck, which had been separated from its chassis, when the dumper section fell on him about 2 p.m. on Carr Bailey Road.

Chauncey firefighters and Southeast Emergency Medics helped get Clowes out from under the bed. The coroner pronounced him dead at the scene, which is about 12 miles north of Athens.

Deputies said Clowes had braced the dump bed on the side of his work truck but it slid off, trapping him.

It was unclear last night whether Clowes had been working for a company or on his own. No more information about the accident was available.

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pat said in February 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 am

Welders the world over suffer unfortunate run-ins with their own stupidity. What could possibly happen when welders are working on a refinery pipeline? How about they burst into flames?

From the Hindu.com site here:
http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/02/stories/2007020203761400.htm

AHMEDABAD : Four workers were killed and 16 injured, some of them critically, in a fire in the pipeline area of the Essar refinery at Vadinar in Gujarat on Wednesday night.

Apparently there were some mistakes in flushing the pipelines before opening the valves, causing leak of some highly inflammable gaseous material. The fire was caused by sparks from the welding work nearby.

Despite being an open area, the fire engulfed about 35 workers doing the welding job. Four of them died on the spot while 16 suffered burns. At least three of them with over 50 per cent burns were said to be critical.

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michael said in February 5th, 2007 at 9:10 am

You are a stupid **@!.

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pat said in February 5th, 2007 at 9:23 am

Michael,
Welders in Toledo Ohio in the middle of winter are particularly stupid. Not even the welding arc can keep you warm there today. While you shiver and chatter your teeth today, think about your career choices.

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Wrinkley said in February 6th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

This page is a hoot. I love these stories and hope you keep posting them.
The negative ‘bs’ is stale, so/but considering the source. I can filter.
I love welding cause it’s (truly) a no brainer. and a great hobby. and a handy tool at the home shop. Like when you have to stich up that old wreck, cause a welder can’t afford anything better than an impound that everyone else passed on. I’m surprised to find so many welders responding, because I have confirmed a theory that welders don’t read. Some just can’t.
Most don’t even speak this language.

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pat said in February 8th, 2007 at 10:09 am

Even light-duty welders manage to blow themselves up. Stupid welder was working on a gas tank of a car- kaboom.

From http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21192585-1702,00.html

AN auto mechanic has been badly burnt after the car he was working on burst into flames in Sydney’s west.

A NSW Ambulance spokesman said the 45-year-old man was lying underneath the car at a service station in Beaconsfield Street, Revesby, when the car caught fire and exploded.

He was believed to have been carrying out welding when the accident happened about 12.15pm (AEDT).

He was taken to Concord Hospital with third-degree burns to half his body, and his condition was described as serious.

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pat said in February 8th, 2007 at 11:29 am

Another Stupid Welder goes up in Smoke. This time, the man was 72, which is pretty old for a welder. All of his experience still could not save him.

From http://tinyurl.com/27puog

Death linked to garage fire

A Dansville man appears to have died after a welding accident ignited a fire in his garage, according to the Livingston County Sheriff’s Department. Robert F. Gibson, 72, was found dead Tuesday about 9:45 a.m. inside a garage on his Stoner Hill Road property.

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john MEGALODON said in February 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Well lets start here….i have been welding for 20 yrs…seen a lotta stupid stuff, i say it lightly. However, let me tell you, and all your wanna be’s..most of the accidents, and such, come from 1 of 2 things, lack of proper training, or not having your head on your job. Sure there’s the eager employer who will have you rush into a job, or miscommunication from a higher up, so you think everything is ready to go. This site i thought (lmao), was to be informative. how about this… I’ve caught fire several times…however, not stoned to the point i dont realise, i am on fire, and how badly, that i cant finish the weld im doing (without recieving burns).
I never took off work and recieved workmans comp for welders flu (a joke, cause ive had it), to the point where i broke a rib,tore the cartlage from 2 of the ribs, and not only KEPT working, but continued to work everyday.
I have been in the union, and as well not. My gross is $62,000 a year.
Idont sit holding my groin, when it comes to doing whatever task my employer hands me, but i do it as smart as humanly possible to help avoid accidents, something (if you were smart), helping others to do, besides pointing out how someone was killed, by a simple, NO BRAINER….people…always work safe!!!! It doesn’t mean you’ll never be injured ,killed, dis-membered, but it does HIGHLY reduce the risk.
AS for YOU host!!!!!!
SHAME ON YOU!!!!! Welding to a skilled welder is an art!!! Not stupidity!
robats will NEVER replace skilled welders…not ever…and the pride in saying i made this, or i make these….as an american a true american, as well never be replaced…even by the likes of you. Quick comments trying to dodge the bullet….shame…degradeing part od america’s back-bone…shame….and puttint the isnsult to injury of anther double shame….shame on you little man, shame…
BTW..they dont call me Megalodon, because im big and stupid….im only 5′9 160 or so lbs…they call me it, cause i have a heart….large, yet ferocious….and you called yourself a welder…..shame…..

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john MEGALODON said in February 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

oh… and before you call me a “stupid welder” for a few misspellings, wasnt that i am stupid, i just didnt FEEL like going back over to proof read, so i dont look stupid….like someone on this site wants people to believe….peace people, and again….work safly, and resonsibly, something our host here is “too stupid i see” to tell you :-)

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john MEGALODON said in February 18th, 2007 at 2:08 pm

oh ya…..i have to say it….i can no longer resist….CRYBABY!!!!
please star at the top of the page for correct heat….
1) in this reference….you might sweat a little, pending on the job you are doing. the hands do perspire mildly at times.
2) Pre-heat is required usualy in thikness of i do believe 1 1/4+”, this does give off yes, a bit of heat…your clothes , hands and gloves, with even somewhat protection, save say if it is summer, and oh…lets go 90 degrees outside, pending if you are indoors, good amount of sweat, as well as gloves….pending outside conditions, if you wear the proper outdoor gear, approximatly the same.
3) pre-heat at 300+ degrees….no your hands dont burst into flames up to youe elbows…..this must be a sic joke…truly people..if this was so….how would the welding be accomplished?…certainly it would be impossible.
Here’s what ya do….go to a searh engine….type in the word welding, methods, and equipment. That will open up a REAL worl to you as to how, and what methods,and dangers there REALLY are to the REAL welder. obviously, this fellow, hasnt done a lot of welding, and must be hanging to his mama’s teet , otherwise why such things……go to the mans web sites to learn more…leave this joker to be his own king….seriously

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pat said in February 19th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

Mega-low-mart,

So let me get this straight- you think that you are the smart welder? The one that refuses to take off of work due to illness or injury? The one that has been doing the job for 20 years and is finally making the salary that a college graduate makes? The one that writes three angry posts full of badd grammar and misspellings before realizing that this page has humorous content? The one that thinks that all of the dead guys I have written about on here were the real stupid ones, right?

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john Megalodon said in February 19th, 2007 at 6:45 pm

ummm duh….stupid USED to be welder…you said those poor people were stupid…not me….i think your candy ass couldnt cut it in the real welding mans world….so you feel shame…and have to call others stupid…lmfao!!!!
shame, shame, shame…….i pity your lame non-artistic ass. someday, you might actually learn something ….like what stupid means….try the mirror….btw…mega-lo-mart?……where ya get that….some cheap joke book?
as well resorting to the name calling….soooo mature mr host….oh ya…..SHAME as well…..dont forget the look in the mirror for the definition of STUPID…hahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

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pat said in February 19th, 2007 at 11:19 pm

Look stupid,
welding is not art. There is not a single piece of “art” in any museum in any country that is based solely upon welding.

And just how many years must a stupid person do a stupid job in order to be classified as “cutting it?” 2 Years? 3? Or does it take a lifetime of doing a really stupid job to “cut it” and do a “man’s job?”

You are just angry and bitter that you have wasted your entire youth and health on a job that has very little reward and absolutely no future. Don’t be pissed at me for shedding light on this truth that welders are the least intelligent person in a room.

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pat said in February 19th, 2007 at 11:25 pm

And just to prove how stupid welders are, they ignore the most obvious threats to their lives when performing hot work. A welder sees a barge full of crude oil? No problem, weld that sucker!

From NOLA.com here:
http://tinyurl.com/2qp4mp

Barge welder’s body found

The body of a welder who had been missing since the tank barge he was working on exploded and caught fire was recovered Sunday, the Coast Guard said.

The dead man, whose identity was withheld, was found near the barge Sunday morning by a Coast Guard helicopter, Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesau said.

The moored barge was holding about 17,000 gallons of crude oil. Welding work was going on when the explosion occurred Saturday about 3 p.m. in Garden Isle Bay, just off Pass a Loutre, near Venice.

Forest Oil owns the barge that exploded and the crane barge it was moored to, which also caught fire and burned. It took 4½ hours to put out the fire on the tank barge, the Coast Guard said.

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john Megalodon said in February 20th, 2007 at 6:03 pm

without a doubt you are sooooo wrong!!!lmao again….not only is there art in a museum that has been welded, but machined, torched, as well various other methods….talk about stupid….do you know what a museum even is?….i have doubt that you do, or have been smart enough to find one.
Why did you delete the links i put on here to the GOOD, TRUTHFUL facts about welding and dangers? because you are a shameful little man….you know, as well as i do, those sites would exspose you for the idiot you are, or you wouldnt have deleted them from the post i put up…
guess that kinda shows how stupid you actually are..dumbass!!!

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John c said in February 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pm

i totally agree with everything this guy is saying….im not a welder, but my father was. he’s retired, has a sa-weet pension…and for 70, he’s well active.
and after reading your site, and knowing, and talking to him….i would have to say, the creator of this site must have mental cramps.
what kind of person, would call someone stupid, outside of a person so stupid, he thinks he see’s his own kind, people die every day….might as well call our troops in iraq stupid, or law enforcement, oh, i know, people that die from a defect. if you ask me, i think this site is more than stupid.
bravo megalodon!!!
lay into that soaker of the taxpayers!!

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bazl said in February 20th, 2007 at 7:58 pm

Wow. This post is like cutting edge art that incites passionate responses.
Very entertaining and I can really empathize with the loathing you have for your previous career.

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pat said in February 20th, 2007 at 10:28 pm

John C and MegalowMart- You are not only stupid you are clumsy as well. When you create a ficticious account on a blog to either argue with or agree with another of your own posts, its called using a “sock puppet.”

Both of your IP’s are 69.23.67.119, which is a cable modem belonging to Road Runner. Look dummy, if you have nothing stronger for your argument other than calling me stupid, which is a serious “im rubber, you’re glue” scenario, then give it up. Resorting to sock puppets who lie about daddies who make “sa-weet” pensions is pathetic.

Welders die every day on the job or by doing something else that is really stupid. Like charging a cop with a knife in your hand. From the Greely Trib here: http://tinyurl.com/2nawqb

People go to school, move away, get married and have children.

And some die young.

That’s what happened to Brian Croissant, 36, of Briggsdale. He was a family man with three small children, a business man, running his own welding shop, and a friend to many in the Johnstown, Milliken and Briggsdale areas.

He died Saturday night. Greeley police say he charged at officers with a knife, and that’s when officers shot and killed him.

Brian leaves behind a 10-year-old son, Cabe; two daughters, Rachel, 9, and Jessica, 5.

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john Megalodon said in February 21st, 2007 at 6:01 pm

fictitious account? hmm i get e-mail every day, so i have no idea what you mean..maybe all that king of the hill and other cartoons rotted your brain.
lets see….i put up what 4 links? you took them off….whats that saying?
ill tell you…its says this site is based on an idiots perception of a job he could not cut it in.
had he (you), actually thought welding was so stupid, the links for the “dangers of welding”, would have stayed, and actually, was surprised to see you didnt add more to back your claims, however, since you deleted them, shows im right. looks to me like if all you can do to prove how stupid all welders are is to exsploit dead people to try and prove a point, keep goin ….im sure some moron might actually believe you…oh im sorry, ….what 3 have, in how many years now? run forest!!! run!!!

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john Megalodon said in February 21st, 2007 at 6:03 pm

oh….try granite wireless, for my isp…hmmmmm MORON!

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pat said in February 21st, 2007 at 7:41 pm

Okay, I’ll show to everyone how you used a fake account. And your ISP may be called whatever, but it is still a road runner account dummy. Your IP is http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=69.23.67.119

Here is your most recent email header:

New comment on your post #25 “Welcome to World Wide Welding”
Author : john Megalodon (IP: 69.23.67.119 , CPE-69-23-67-119.new.res.rr.com)
E-mail : mossdog420m@yahoo.com

And here is the email you created to sockpuppet yourself.

New comment on your post #25 “Welcome to World Wide Welding”
Author : John c (IP: 69.23.67.119 , CPE-69-23-67-119.new.res.rr.com)
E-mail : john_john2900@charter.net
URL :
Whois : http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=69.23.67.119
Comment:
i totally agree with everything this guy is saying….im not a welder, but my father was. he’s retired, has a sa-weet pension…and for 70, he’s well active.

Now everyone will know you can’t hold an argument unless you create a ficticious account to support your weak position. And by listing your email addresses online I’m sure that spam bots will send you lots of goodies now.

And you have to pay me to advertise your links, chump, I won’t do it for free.

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mr tig said in February 21st, 2007 at 8:27 pm

well pat you are indeed the idiot here. i cant believe i even read your site with all the b.s you posted up here. obviously you have never attended any welding school or you would know that there is a vast amount of information you have to learn to be a competent welder. the only problem with a welding career is we have idiots like you who cant cut it and then badmouth the trade and/or the idiot who doesnt take the time to LEARN the trade and says”oh yea i can weld, im a welder” the problem with the trade is there is not enough COMPETENT welders vs the “idiot” which includes you, who makes us look bad. you dont know anything, the majority of what you have stated is a matter of opinion and completely false.

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pat said in February 21st, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Sorry Mr. Tig. I did indeed go to welding school at Newport News Shipbuilding where I was certified in many different processes. (Not tig though.) And as far as competence goes, I was very competent and skilled at what I did.

And I think its very telling that no welder can specify the length of time required before one is considered to be able to “cut it” as a welder. Is it three years? Four? Fifty? I spent over 10,000 hours running beads in the toughest conditions.

The job is not challenging other than the constant safety hazards. But I repeat that only a stupid person will waste his only God-given life in pursuit of welding as a career. Smarter people dont weld. They stay in college and make a better life for themselves. Or they realize that the job is a deadly dead end and they get out when they can.

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mr tig said in February 21st, 2007 at 8:52 pm

you sound completely brainwashed, everybody cant work whitecollar jobs and someone who chooses a trade is no more stupid than the person who goes to college for 10 years just to make 100k+. just out of curiosity what is your career now pat?

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mr tig said in February 21st, 2007 at 8:59 pm

so a radiology job where all you do is take a fucking xray everyday is challenging? come on now, im not sayin i wanna be buring rod the rest of my life but there are endless possibilities for welders. and if you want that big money learn a specialized welding process that not any bum off the street can do.

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pat said in February 21st, 2007 at 9:08 pm

Radiology? No, if you read my log at http://www.belch.com/blog you will figure out what I do. And you are right, the world is wide open for welders to do anything they want with their lives. The ones who waste their lives burning rods are the stupid ones.

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pat said in March 2nd, 2007 at 2:37 pm

This poor dumb welder was crushed by the 300KG frame that he was working on. For other dumb welders reading this, its about 650 pounds. It crushed his chest. For some reason, the newspaper published photos of the poor dumb bastard lying on the floor with a sunken chest here:
http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=400085

A steel frame weighing around 300kg fell on top of a Durban factory worker today, seriously injuring him. The 18-year-old worker, Ricardo Naidoo, was working at a factory in Avoca, according to ER24 Durban operations manager Neil Noble.

Witnesses allege that Naidoo was welding the steel circular frame when it fell on him. The structure, which weighs in the region of 300kg, fell sideways onto him, crushing his chest.

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pat said in March 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 pm

This is another sad story. A female rescue worker died trying to rescue two stupid welders in a tank that was filled with argon gas. Argon gas is a shielding gas which keeps the welding operation free of oxygen. Welders are taught that argon gas is heavier than air, and they are taught that argon will fill a space and displace all of the oxygen. Welders are taught not to enter spaces unless they have been checked by air quality chemists. Because once you inhale argon, it is almost impossible to expel it from your lungs.

But welders are pretty stupid and they forget and it gets them killed. The first welder went into the space without having it checked. He dropped dead. The welder’s partner was even dumber since he tried to go in after him. He dropped dead. Then a poor rescue worker who probably did not know about the dangers of argon, went in to drag out their bodies and she died too. But I bet there were some dumb welders standing around who didn’t warn the rescue worker to not try to enter the tank.

From Canada.com here: http://tinyurl.com/yshqs4

Three people died during a welding job at an Eastern Townships company last year because proper safety procedures were not followed, a report by the province’s workplace health and safety board has determined.

The three died in a 2.4-metre-high holding tank at Les Emballages Knowlton, a pharmaceutical packaging company, when they were overcome by toxic fumes. Two victims were welders; the third was a first-responder from the company who tried to rescue the other two.

On July 28, the welders went to the plant to fix a large stainless steel holding tank. They were using argon gas, which keeps the solder from oxidizing.

According to the CSST report, the argon tank was left open all night, expelling oxygen from the holding tank. When the welders returned to finish the job the next morning, there was only 10 per cent oxygen in the tank. The minimum requirement is 19.5 per cent.

No one took an oxygen reading before entering the tank, nobody ventilated the tank, and the welders were not wearing safety harnesses, the report said. When welder Christian Paul Zelaya Monterro lowered himself into the tank, he lost consciousness and was asphyxiated.

His partner, Vassil Valkov, saw Monterro passed out at the bottom of the tank. Valkov called for security, then went in and also was asphyxiated. The third victim, Nancy Desnoyers, was a first-responder for Les Emballages Knowlton. She went in to try to save the pair and was quickly overcome.

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pat said in March 5th, 2007 at 11:37 am