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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-172478</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, way to totally misread what I said.  Me getting bullied caused me not to be able to play the cello the way I would like from time to time.  Extended 1st position (or any extended position) with a pinky finger that never healed right, hurts like hell.  I can generally take it for about 10 minutes, but after that it starts to hurt too much and I either have to come up with some crazy shifting patterns or quit.  All because some asshole thought it would be funny to grab my hand as I was begging for mercy and hurt my hand as much as he could.  I actually quite enjoy some cello rock stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, way to totally misread what I said.  Me getting bullied caused me not to be able to play the cello the way I would like from time to time.  Extended 1st position (or any extended position) with a pinky finger that never healed right, hurts like hell.  I can generally take it for about 10 minutes, but after that it starts to hurt too much and I either have to come up with some crazy shifting patterns or quit.  All because some asshole thought it would be funny to grab my hand as I was begging for mercy and hurt my hand as much as he could.  I actually quite enjoy some cello rock stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-172437</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, Bryan you got bullied &lt;b&gt;because you played cello!&lt;/b&gt;  Have you seen this?

http://www.belch.com/blog/2008/03/14/4-pm-music-cello-rock/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, Bryan you got bullied <b>because you played cello!</b>  Have you seen this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.belch.com/blog/2008/03/14/4-pm-music-cello-rock/" rel="nofollow">http://www.belch.com/blog/2008/03/14/4-pm-music-cello-rock/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-172427</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/6535110/mum-encouraged-daughter-to-assault-girl thats why I anything supporting bullying scares me.  Thats were a lot of bullying inevitably leads (trust me... I am like an expert).  I have never had that big of an assult... but I have seen adults encourage my bullies, and I have had dislocated fingers and a broken nose (at different times).  It still hurts from time to time for me to play my cello because of the vibrations.  Anything supporting spoken bulling scares the hell out of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  <a href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/6535110/mum-encouraged-daughter-to-assault-girl" rel="nofollow">http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/6535110/mum-encouraged-daughter-to-assault-girl</a> thats why I anything supporting bullying scares me.  Thats were a lot of bullying inevitably leads (trust me&#8230; I am like an expert).  I have never had that big of an assult&#8230; but I have seen adults encourage my bullies, and I have had dislocated fingers and a broken nose (at different times).  It still hurts from time to time for me to play my cello because of the vibrations.  Anything supporting spoken bulling scares the hell out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169750</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  In case you were wondering, bullying effects 2-4th (out of 5) most important needs.  The only big one it doesn&#039;t effect is your basic needs (food, shelter, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  In case you were wondering, bullying effects 2-4th (out of 5) most important needs.  The only big one it doesn&#8217;t effect is your basic needs (food, shelter, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169749</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on how high functioning they are and who their classmates are.  A HFA kid is going to be treated more like crap then a LFA autistic kid, especcially as they will be in a lot of remedial classes with the worst type of classmates.  In some ways I think abuse at high school is one of the worst kinds of abuse, the only kind that would really be worse is a kid being abused at home.  I mean you have no choice but to go back again and again and again, even spousal abuse isn&#039;t that bad.  When being abused at home and school are combined, can you really blame a kid for wanting to blow his head off.  18 straight years without any escape... scary.

I agree that you have to get past it, but if you can save lifes by stopping bullying wouldn&#039;t you?  Seriously, it only makes sense to try and stop it.  Especcially when verbal bullying generally means theres some kind of other bullying going on.

Now as for depression being the culprit behind suicide, bullying can be the root cause behind depression.  To quote Spanglish (yes I just quoted Spanglish :-p), &quot;Your low self-esteem is just common sense&quot; (or something like that).  Same thing with being depressed.  If your being bullied and mocked all the time at school and have few friends because of it, chances are your not going to be too happy.  If you have been teased constantly for years, your going to be pretty close to the abyss.

And moving even farther on, read up on Maslow&#039;s Hierarchy of Needs, if your being bullied constantly your not going to learn that much because you have worse things to worry about (learning is on the very top of the hierarchy).  So if you believe that you go to school to learn, the school has a substational interest to stop bullying where it sits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on how high functioning they are and who their classmates are.  A HFA kid is going to be treated more like crap then a LFA autistic kid, especcially as they will be in a lot of remedial classes with the worst type of classmates.  In some ways I think abuse at high school is one of the worst kinds of abuse, the only kind that would really be worse is a kid being abused at home.  I mean you have no choice but to go back again and again and again, even spousal abuse isn&#8217;t that bad.  When being abused at home and school are combined, can you really blame a kid for wanting to blow his head off.  18 straight years without any escape&#8230; scary.</p>
<p>I agree that you have to get past it, but if you can save lifes by stopping bullying wouldn&#8217;t you?  Seriously, it only makes sense to try and stop it.  Especcially when verbal bullying generally means theres some kind of other bullying going on.</p>
<p>Now as for depression being the culprit behind suicide, bullying can be the root cause behind depression.  To quote Spanglish (yes I just quoted Spanglish :-p), &#8220;Your low self-esteem is just common sense&#8221; (or something like that).  Same thing with being depressed.  If your being bullied and mocked all the time at school and have few friends because of it, chances are your not going to be too happy.  If you have been teased constantly for years, your going to be pretty close to the abyss.</p>
<p>And moving even farther on, read up on Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy of Needs, if your being bullied constantly your not going to learn that much because you have worse things to worry about (learning is on the very top of the hierarchy).  So if you believe that you go to school to learn, the school has a substational interest to stop bullying where it sits.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169743</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has not been my experience that mentally and physically retarded kids in high school get bullied and picked on.  In fact, I&#039;ve seen the exact opposite where such kids are shown a lot of kindness by fellow students.  And no argument from me that school sucks.  I have a whole category to homeschooling because of school abuse.  But you do what you have to to get past school and into a good life for yourself.  Same for working a lousy job-  if you need the money you stick it out, or get a better job when you can.  

I was listening to an old episode of LoveLine with Dr. Drew today and he said that Depression was a disease that has a 20% death rate!  Between suicide and out of control addiction, most of those deaths occur.  And the mental health treatment for depression is still being perfected.  Where some see bullying as the culprit behind suicide, I see it as someone who suffered from an untreated mental illness.  Those with stronger mental health are able to cope with teasing and doesn&#039;t allow it to make their depression a terminal condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has not been my experience that mentally and physically retarded kids in high school get bullied and picked on.  In fact, I&#8217;ve seen the exact opposite where such kids are shown a lot of kindness by fellow students.  And no argument from me that school sucks.  I have a whole category to homeschooling because of school abuse.  But you do what you have to to get past school and into a good life for yourself.  Same for working a lousy job-  if you need the money you stick it out, or get a better job when you can.  </p>
<p>I was listening to an old episode of LoveLine with Dr. Drew today and he said that Depression was a disease that has a 20% death rate!  Between suicide and out of control addiction, most of those deaths occur.  And the mental health treatment for depression is still being perfected.  Where some see bullying as the culprit behind suicide, I see it as someone who suffered from an untreated mental illness.  Those with stronger mental health are able to cope with teasing and doesn&#8217;t allow it to make their depression a terminal condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169742</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a social Darwinist.  If I was I would have you steralized :).  It seems weird to me that someone who claims to support kids with Fragile X would be.  You do realize that most of them get bullied on a regular basis and many probably commit suicide because of it.  Beyond that, would you work at a job where you were called a fag, retard, homo, etc. on more then a daily basis for 4 years?  Probably not, you would probably quit after like... a month, two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a social Darwinist.  If I was I would have you steralized <img src='http://www.belch.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  It seems weird to me that someone who claims to support kids with Fragile X would be.  You do realize that most of them get bullied on a regular basis and many probably commit suicide because of it.  Beyond that, would you work at a job where you were called a fag, retard, homo, etc. on more then a daily basis for 4 years?  Probably not, you would probably quit after like&#8230; a month, two?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169741</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words the only way you are going to be protected is to do harm to yourself or others or create the disruption in some way yourself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, you can realize that high school is just 4 miserable years of a long life, endure it and get out and do something great and fun with your life.  Like most normal people do.

Suicide is sad, but it weeds out the weak.  Darwin said so, go bitch at him, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other words the only way you are going to be protected is to do harm to yourself or others or create the disruption in some way yourself.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, you can realize that high school is just 4 miserable years of a long life, endure it and get out and do something great and fun with your life.  Like most normal people do.</p>
<p>Suicide is sad, but it weeds out the weak.  Darwin said so, go bitch at him, not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169735</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  You Still need to tell Ryan Patrick Halligan&#039;s parents that this is no big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  You Still need to tell Ryan Patrick Halligan&#8217;s parents that this is no big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Endersdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.belch.com/blog/2009/12/14/courts-uphold-1st-amendment-rights-of-cyberbullies/comment-page-1/#comment-169733</link>
		<dc:creator>Endersdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This court decision protects calling someone a retard so long as you do it online, or at school but it does not create a disruption to the class.  Pretty much any language short of threatening someone, or committing slander/libel is now allowed.  I mean how would that create a disruption to the class anymore then this would.  You do it at lunch, a couple people laughes, the person being called a retard tries to do something but doesn&#039;t know what to do... sounds pretty bad to me, but is totally allowed according to this new Supreme Court decision.

Beyond that wearing a armband to protest a war is a lot different then calling someone a slut, but the Supreme Court just ruled them to be the same form of protected speech.  Face it this opens the flood gates for hostile actions at school, so long as no disruption is created.  In other words the only way you are going to be protected is to do harm to yourself or others or create the disruption in some way yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This court decision protects calling someone a retard so long as you do it online, or at school but it does not create a disruption to the class.  Pretty much any language short of threatening someone, or committing slander/libel is now allowed.  I mean how would that create a disruption to the class anymore then this would.  You do it at lunch, a couple people laughes, the person being called a retard tries to do something but doesn&#8217;t know what to do&#8230; sounds pretty bad to me, but is totally allowed according to this new Supreme Court decision.</p>
<p>Beyond that wearing a armband to protest a war is a lot different then calling someone a slut, but the Supreme Court just ruled them to be the same form of protected speech.  Face it this opens the flood gates for hostile actions at school, so long as no disruption is created.  In other words the only way you are going to be protected is to do harm to yourself or others or create the disruption in some way yourself.</p>
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