Comments on: Smoking Vaccine Being Tested http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/ I can't believe that came from your mouth! Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:08:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: poppycede http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-7020 poppycede Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:23:15 +0000 http://www.belch.com/~blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-7020 Okay, one more post: If you believe that an addiction is a disease then you can use the logic that you want a vaccine that prevents or cures you of a disease. But, it would appear that you see addiction as lack of willpower, perhaps even as a choice, and so overcoming it but still experiencing the daily craving is what you appreciate. I can understand and appreciate that. Your accomplishment is incredible, cigarettes are more addictive than crack so you've beaten crack and cigs all in one go! Okay, one more post: If you believe that an addiction is a disease then you can use the logic that you want a vaccine that prevents or cures you of a disease.

But, it would appear that you see addiction as lack of willpower, perhaps even as a choice, and so overcoming it but still experiencing the daily craving is what you appreciate. I can understand and appreciate that. Your accomplishment is incredible, cigarettes are more addictive than crack so you’ve beaten crack and cigs all in one go!

]]> By: pat http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6537 pat Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:15:43 +0000 http://www.belch.com/~blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6537 Poppy, Im not too sure why I think that taking a vaccine would be bad. It feels like cheating to me. Yeah, I took Zyban and quit, but I still want a cigarette at least once per day. It is still hard today to not smoke. Trench, this is going to be your reality for some time too, but stick with it. I smoked for 25 years, but I am now in the best condition of my life. And joining a gym helps immensely. But back to why the vaccine seems odd to me- it absolves the individual from the responsibility for having started the bad habit in the first place. For instance, if I knew there was a vaccine for cocaine addiction, I could carelessly devote a year or so to smoking crack, and then after I was arrested a few times I could take the vaccine, get new teeth and pretend it didnt happen. Yes, it could make the world a better place, especially for families that deal with alcohol addiction, but if science gets to the point where there are no more vices, will there no longer be any responsibility for personal behavior? My wife still smokes and when I told her about this blog entry she got huffy and wondered aloud why society thought that it had to "cure" her in the first place, that smoking was her personal choice. I think Im going to watch THX1138 tonight to see what society is like when it is controlled by behavioral modifying drugs. ;) Poppy,
Im not too sure why I think that taking a vaccine would be bad. It feels like cheating to me. Yeah, I took Zyban and quit, but I still want a cigarette at least once per day. It is still hard today to not smoke.

Trench, this is going to be your reality for some time too, but stick with it. I smoked for 25 years, but I am now in the best condition of my life. And joining a gym helps immensely.

But back to why the vaccine seems odd to me- it absolves the individual from the responsibility for having started the bad habit in the first place. For instance, if I knew there was a vaccine for cocaine addiction, I could carelessly devote a year or so to smoking crack, and then after I was arrested a few times I could take the vaccine, get new teeth and pretend it didnt happen.

Yes, it could make the world a better place, especially for families that deal with alcohol addiction, but if science gets to the point where there are no more vices, will there no longer be any responsibility for personal behavior?

My wife still smokes and when I told her about this blog entry she got huffy and wondered aloud why society thought that it had to “cure” her in the first place, that smoking was her personal choice.

I think Im going to watch THX1138 tonight to see what society is like when it is controlled by behavioral modifying drugs. ;)

]]> By: poppycede http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6535 poppycede Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:22:50 +0000 http://www.belch.com/~blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6535 You took something to help you quit. So, how is that different from a vaccine? (And, I don't mean dictionary-wise. :) If there were a vaccine for alcoholism I would have had a very different childhood. So. I wouldn't mind one. You took something to help you quit. So, how is that different from a vaccine? (And, I don’t mean dictionary-wise. :)

If there were a vaccine for alcoholism I would have had a very different childhood. So. I wouldn’t mind one.

]]> By: Trench http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6533 Trench Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:21:09 +0000 http://www.belch.com/~blog/2006/07/28/smoking-vaccine-being-tested/#comment-6533 I've been quit for 10 weeks now and I used the patch. You're absolutely right. You have to have an immense desire to quit or else nothing will work. I’ve been quit for 10 weeks now and I used the patch. You’re absolutely right. You have to have an immense desire to quit or else nothing will work.

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